Me la aspettavo una cosa simile, è un classico.


Per sottovento ed i suoi problemi di bilanciamento.

La prendi troppo sul personale, questa non è una gara a chi dice la verità, è un argomento molto interessante ma anche molto complesso. Ad ogni modo essendo che più o meno tutti attingiamo le notizie dal web può anche accadere di scrivere qualche inesattezza. Pensa che pocanzi lo hai fatto anche te, infatti riguardo a Westgate fu successivamente accertato che egli morì per un'overdose di sedativi e non per sindrome aerotossica.



Domanda 1: cosa c'entrano i sedativi con la sindrome aerotossica???

Domanda 2: quanta gente è realmente deceduta nel mondo per la sindrome aerotossica??

Risposta 1: Il pilota soffriva da tempo di forti dolori alla testa,nausea ed intorpidimento delle articolazioni.
Il rapporto del coroner indicava come causa l'intossicazione rspiratoria.
I sedativi centrano nella misura per la quale il pilota li prendeva per alleviare i forti dolori.
Nella causa di risarcimento intentata dai famigliari, per ragioni ovvie, gli avvocati e periti della compagnia sono riusciti a far passare che la morte è dovuta ai sedativi.

Risposta 2:

"DUE dei piloti più talentuosi della British Airways sono morti dopo aver denunciato anni di esposizione a fumi tossici di petrolio a bordo di aerei passeggeri. Karen Lysakowska, 43 anni, è stata sepolta martedì scorso, mentre Richard Westgate, anche 43 anni, è stato sepolto quattro giorni prima Entrambi denunciavano di essere stati avvelenati dai gas tossici che possono contaminare l'aria della cabina e che costringono regolarmente i piloti a indossare maschere di ossigeno per respirare ".

Piu che chiederemi quanti sono i morti per intossicazione, questi due non sono gli unici, dovresti chiedere quanti sono i casi di malessere di equipaggi e passeggeri e di voli interrotti per intossicazione.


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• 25 August 2015 — ‘The airlines are running scared’ – Norfolk pilots give their views on plane poisoning claims — Eastern Daily Press
• 24 August 2015 — Poisoned on planes? The Norfolk man at the heart of campaign taking on major airline companies — Eastern Daily Press
• 21 August 2015 — The ‘dark side’ of frequent flying: Academics warn that the consequences include serious physiological and emotional damage — The Daily Mail
• 19 August 2015 — Macht Fliegen krank? — Medipresse
• 19 August 2015 — Kontaminierte Kabinenluft jetzt im Film — Fluege.de
• 17 August 2015 — Rauch in der KabineÄrger um Germanwings nach Notlandung in Paris — Focus.de
• 14 August 2015 — British Airways pilots were forced to wear oxygen masks for emergency landing after ‘debris blocking air to flight deck’ made them ill — The Daily Mail
• 14 August 2015 — Aviation’s Poisoned Air: Aerotoxic Syndrome — Marcia G Yerman
• 14 August 2015 — Gefilterte Berichterstattung — Cicero
• 9 August 2015 — When Johnny Comes Marchin’ Home… Covering Up the Toxic Truth of PTSD — Greenmedinfo
• 30 July 2015 — GCAQE calls on all aviation crew members and passengers to contribute to a vital blood test being developed to prove exposure to contaminated air on aircraft — GCAQE PRESS RELEASE
• 29 July 2015 — BA flight makes emergency landing with ‘pilots in oxygen masks amid cockpit burning smell’ – Express

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• 29 July 2015 –Aviation’s Poisoned Air: Aerotoxic Syndrome — Huffington Post – GREEN
• 29 July 2015 — Hundreds of pilots who have suffered from mental illness can fly again, report reveals –- Express
• 22 July 2015 — United Airlines flight bound for LAX diverted in Colorado after passengers become ill — LA Times
• 22 July 2015 — Council set to call for public inquiry into deadly illness which is feared to have killed Crawley cabin crew member — Crawley News
• 21 July 2015 — AVIATION’S POISONED AIR: AEROTOXIC SYNDROME — Moms Clean Air Force — Marcia Yerman
• 16 July 2015 — QueasyJet — EXCLUSIVE: Terror as plane diverts after passengers breathe deadly fumes — The Sun
• 15 July 2015 — Crew on board Gatwick-bound flight reportedly don oxygen masks during emergency sparked by fears over fumes in cockpit — Crawley News
• 09 July 2015 — Airlines aerotoxins — Blog: Fighting Talk by Mark Metcalf
• 06 July 2015 — Aerotoxic Syndrome — Pregnancy-info.net
• 29 June 2015 — Airport staff taken to hospital after inhaling fumes from Aurigny plane — ITV News
• 28 June 2015 — Death of BA worker blamed on cabin fumes — The Sunday Times
• 27 June 2015 — Smoke Forces Passengers to Evacuate Plane in Houston — NBC News
• 26 June 2015 — Poisoned at work, misdiagnosed, drugged and his assets stripped from him – the true story of pilot, Len Lawrence — CCHR UK
• 25 June 2015 — Fumes Saga Takes A New Twist — Airways News
• 24 June 205 — Cabin crew sue Boeing over ‘toxic cabin air’ — The Daily Telegraph
• 24 June 2015 — Lawsuit: Boeing jets flood cabin air with toxic fumes — CNN Money
• 24 June 2015 — Four Alaska Airlines Crew Members Sue Boeing Over Toxic Fumes That Leaked During 2013 Flight — Consumerist.com
• 24 June 2015 — Lawsuit: Flight Attendants Sickened By Toxic Cabin Air Fumes on Boeing Jet — Insider – Fox News
• 23 June 2015 — Alaska Air flight attendants sue Boeing, claim injury from engine fumes — newsminer.com
• 23 June 2015 — Flight Attendants sue Boeing, Claim Injuries Due to Toxic Cabin Air — NBC San Diego
• 23 June 2015 — Is Aircraft Cabin Air Toxic? — IFLScience
• 23 June 2015 — Flight attendants accuse Boeing of knowing about a defect that allows toxic fumes to leak into the cabin and cause ‘bleed air’ — Daily Mail
  23 June 2015 — Toxic fumes in airplanes? Flight attendants sue amid claims of exposure — Today News
• 23 June 2015 — Flight attendants: Boeing plane can let in toxic fumes — CBS News
• 23 June 2015 — Flight attendants sue Boeing over ‘toxic fumes’ on Alaska Airlines jet — LA Times
• 22 June 2015 — Is Aircraft Cabin Air Toxic? — Gizmodo
• 20 June 2015 — Explainer: is aircraft cabin air toxic? — The Conversation UK
• 18 June 2015 — How Safe Is Your Cabin Air? ‘Toxic air on planes is a danger for passengers’ — The Daily Telegraph
• 18 June 2015 — Cabin crew to sue British airlines over ‘poisoning’ — The Scotsman
• 18 June 2015 — Pilot’s family believe he was poisoned by toxic cabin air — ITV News
• 16 June 2015 — Aircraft giant fails to block cabin fumes case — The West Australian
• 14 June 2015 — Allegiant Air: Passengers Use Emergency Exit After Fumes Overtake Cabin After Landing, No Help From Crew — The Inquisitr
• 14 June 2015 — Passengers escape onto plane’s wing after ‘cabin fills with smoke’ — Travel.aol
• 14 June 2015 — Incredible photo shows the moment passengers were forced to escape onto the plane’s WING at US airport after fumes spread through cabin when it landed — The Daily Mail

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• 13 June 2015 — Allegiant Flyers Evacuate onto Wing at Boise Airport Due to Fumes — Travel Pulse
• 08 June 2015 — British airlines ‘face multiple toxic air claims’ — BBC News
• 08 June 2015 — Aircrew launch personal injury claims against British airlines over toxic fumes they say causes nausea, numbness and even death — The Daily Mail
• 08 June 2015 — UK airlines face legal action over quality of cabin air — The Financial Times
• 08 June 2015 — British airlines face barrage of legal claims over toxic cabin air — Air Transport World
• 08 June 2015 — ‘On the level with asbestos’ — unite live
• 08 June 2015 — How safe is air quality on commercial planes? — BBC News
• 08 June 2015 — Cabin crew ‘plan legal action over toxic cabin air’ — Daily Telegraph
• 03 June 2015 — EPA poised to rule on health danger of aircraft fumes, possible regulation — Aljazeera America
• 02 June 2015 –FIFO plane emergemcy landing at Fortescue’s Solomon mine after ‘unusual smell’ reported — perthnow.com
  28 May 2015 — Conspiracy thriller asks: does flying poison you? — Financial Times
• 18 May 2015 — Pilots and aviation experts speak out over safety of plane cabin air — ITV News
• 07 May 2015 — Delta flight diverted after smoke fills cabin — CNN
• 04 May 2015 — Dodelijk gif in vliegtuig — De Telegraaf
• 30 April 2015 — RAAF jet fuel damaged ground crews’ body cells; long-term consequences unknown, says groundbreaking research — ABC News Aus
• 30 April 2015 — Jet fuel causes cell damage: study — News.com.au
• 22 April 2015 — ‘Silent killer’ fear on planes — Travel.aol
• 22 April 2015 — Revealed: 167 cases of toxic air in planes in just four months – and 12 cases resulted in pilots requesting priority landing — The Daily Mail
• 21 April 2015 — Union calls for public inquiry into aeroplane cabin air over ‘fume event’ fears — ITV News
• 19 April 2015 — Toxic plane fumes on flights ‘is bad as asbestos’ — Sunday Express — MATTHEW DAVIS
• 07 April 2015 — Qualite de l’air des avions : une nouvelle etude en cours — entrevoisins.org
• 31 March 2015 — Aerotoxic syndrome: how to stay safe — What doctors dont tell you
• 26 March 2015 — Aerotoxic Syndrome – Aviation’s Secret That Is Risking Your Health Every Time You Fly — Collective Evolution
• 25 March 2015 — AEROTOXIC POISONING — Early Day Motion (EDM) 927 – UK Parliament — Angus MacNeil
• 18 March 2015 — EASA contracts cabin air quality research — Flight Global
• 18 March 2015 — EASA awards contract for cabin air contamination research — Flight Global
• 15 March 2015 — Jet evacuated at DIA after reports of smoke in the cabin — FOX31 Denver
• 12 March 2015 — Panic on board Air Europa flight from Barcelona to Tel Aviv as ’10 passengers faint after reporting strong smell of gas’ — The Daily Mail
• 11 March 2015 — Des fumees d’huile de moteur contaminent l’air des cabines d’avion — Techniques de l’ingenieur
• 10 March 2015 — Is the Air Quality on Passenger Planes Killing People? — VICE.com
• 04 March 2015 — US Airways: Passengers Evacuate Flight in Denver as Smoke Fills Cabin — ABC News
• 02 March 2015 –UK first official recognition of ‘aerotoxic syndrome’ caused by fumes in aircraft cabins — Merco Press
• 02 March 2015 — Un rapport met en cause la toxicite de l’air dans les cabines d’avion — Actualites Voyages
• 01 March 2015 — L’air des cabines en avion trop toxique? — Air Journal
• 27 February 2015 — BA chief Willie Walsh insists ‘cbin air is safe’ — ITV News
• 27 February 2015 — UK coroner warns of toxic air; industry stagnant on issue — Runway Girl Network
• 26 February 2015 — Many pilots ‘medically-impaired’ due to toxic cabin air — Flight Global
• 25 February 2015 — Questions remain over air steward’s death — Joel Hills — ITV News
• 23 February 2015 — Passengers’ lives ARE at risk from toxic fumes in cabin, coroner investigating death of BA pilot tells airline chiefs — Daily Mail
• 23 February 2015 –Aerotoxic fumes: Campaigners warn over toxic cabin air after pilot’s death — Independent
• 23 February 2015 — A Dorset coroner has demanded answers from British Airways and the Civil Aviation Authority over claims that air tainted with jet fuel is putting the health of pilots, air crew, and frequent passengers at serious risk — BBC TV
• 23 February 2015 — Toxic fumes on planes putting passenger lives at risks, warn experts — Ruth Doherty – Travel.aol
• 22 February 2015 — Toxic fumes in plane cabins pose health risks to frequent flyers, says coroner — Jamie Campbell — Independent
• 22 February 2015 — Ex-pilot warns over ‘toxic plane fumes’ ahead of inquest — BBC TV
• 21 February 2015 — Sheriff Stanhope Payne, Senior Coroner for Dorset raises serious Matters of Concern on crew and passenger exposure to contaminated air on aircraft. — GCAQE Press Release
• 21 February 2015 –Is the air in your holiday plane poisoning you? Memory loss, chronic fatigue, breathing problems, even cancer. One former BA captain lifts the lids on aviations darkest secret… — The Daily Mail
• 21 February 2015 — Warning over toxic fumes in plane cabins — The Telegragh
• 21 February 2015 — What is aerotoxic syndrome? — Daily Telegraph – Camilla Turner
• 21 February 2015 — Richter schlägt wegen giftiger Kabinenluft Alarm — Die Welt
• 21 February 2015 — ‘They can’t keep brushing this under the carpet’, says victim of aerotoxic syndrome — Daily Telegraph
• 21 February 2015 — Giftige Kabinenluft: Fluggesellschaft und Luftaufsichtsbehörde müssen handeln — Austrian Wings
• 20 February 2015 — Flight diverted after emergency — BBC News
• 20 February 2015 — Is the air in your holiday plane poisoning you? — Daily Mail
• 20 February 2015 — Coroner writes to British Airways and regulator over cabin air concerns — ITV News
• 20 February 2015 — BA and CAA ordered to act on cabin air contamination — Flight Global
• 17 February 2015 — EasyJet plane forced into emergency landing and met by fire engines at Manchester Airport after passengers report smell of fumes in cabin — The Daily Mail
  11 February 2015 — An autopsy may prove contaminated cabin air causes death — Runway Girl Network
• 08 February 2015 — Airlines gefahrden Passegiere mit giftigen Dampfen — Die Welt
• 08 February 2015 — Das Gift fliegt mit — Die Welt
• 06 February 2015 — Accident: Lufthansa A320 near Moscow on Nov 17th 2012, fumes on board — The Aviation Herald
• 06 February 2015 — An autopsy may prove contaminated cabin air causes death — Runway Girl Network
• 03 February 2015 — UPS jet makes early morning emergency landing an Little Rock — THV11
  03 February 2015 — UPS jet makes early morning emergency landing an Little Rock — THV11
  02 February 2015 — Recognition for the man who won’t go away — Flight Global
  30 January 2015 — British Citizen Award Presented To Global Cabin Air Quality Executive (GCAQE) Co-Chairman Captain Tristan Loraine BCAi — GCAQE Press Release
• 2 February 2015 — Recognition for the man who won’t go away — Flight Global
• 30 January 2015 — British Citizen Award Presented To Global Cabin Air Quality Executive (GCAQE) Co-Chairman Captain Tristan Loraine BCAi — GCAQE Press Release
• 29 January 2015 — United jet makes emergency landing in Ontario; passengers report smoke — LA Times
• 22 January 2015 — Smoke alarm forces jet from McCarran to return — Las Vegas Review-Journal
• 13 January 2015 — So how safe are you? — Arab News
• 08 January 2015 — Fumes force Fiji Airways flight to turn back — stuff.co.nz
• 03 February 2015 — UPS jet makes early morning emergency landing an Little Rock — THV11
• 02 February 2015 — Recognition for the man who won’t go away — Flight Global
• 30 January 2015 — British Citizen Award Presented To Global Cabin Air Quality Executive (GCAQE) Co-Chairman Captain Tristan Loraine BCAi — GCAQE Press Release
• 29 January 2015 — United jet makes emergency landing in Ontario; passengers report smoke — LA Times
• 22 January 2015 — Smoke alarm forces jet from McCarran to return — Las Vegas Review-Journal
• 13 January 2015 — So how safe are you? — Arab News
• 08 January 2015 — Fumes force Fiji Airways flight to turn back — stuff.co.nz

Sottovento.... te lo ribadisco ancora una volta: dietro la Geoingegneria (da adesso in poi la chiamerò Geoingegneria... e non più "scie chimiche") ci sono organizzazioni paramilitari e ci sono finanziatori con poteri economici inimmaginabili. Sono 100.000 i miliardi di dollari (CENTOMILAMILIARDIDIDOLLARI) che verranno sbloccati "per salvare il pianeta" dal FINTO "surriscaldamento globale". Una cifra che è un terzo del debito pubblico mondiale. Un terzo del debito pubblico mondiale sottovento... hai idea di COSA stiamo parlando e di QUALI siano gli interessi che ci sono dietro??

In merito al discorso dei 77 scienziati di cui parli, ci siamo occupati anche di loro... Sono foraggiati dalle stesse identiche organizzazioni. Senza soldi non si mangia e non si fa Ricerca. Se chi ti paga ti chiede di smentire la questione "scie chimiche", tu lo fai... punto e basta. Comprendi?

ECCO DA CHI SONO FINANZIATI I 77 SCIENZIATI CHE HANNO INTORTATO MEZZO MONDO
(DICENDO CHE LE "SCIE CHIMICHE SONO UNA BUFALA")....

Ok; allora, tra quanto sparirà il genere umano ............
Personalmente sono riuscito a campare (sotto gli "spruzzi") per ben 75 anni ( e mo' tra qualche gg me faccio pure le ... nozze d'oro)!
E mi diverto a seguire ogni tanto col telescopio (o il binocolone) gli aerei con le scie .....

In verità l'articolo che ho postato dice l'esatto contrario e cioè:
Coroner Dr Simon Fox recorded a conclusion of accidental death caused by an overdose of pentobarbital.

Nb: ti faccio presente che il Coroner è una figura federale super partes che non dipende e non lavora per conto dei privati ma per la legge americana svolge d'ufficio il ruolo di medico legale qualora vi siano delle morti sospette.

Già, a saperlo!

Quindi anche il pilota Karen è morto nello stesso periodo perchè si imbottiva di pillole?
NB. 2 piloti che muoiono a 4 giorni di distanza



Ma pensa un po, sono anni che piloti e personale di bordo denunciano intossicamenti e che le compagnie negano dicendo che l'aria è pulita.
Hanno cosi potere che riescono a ribaltare i rapporti autopici pur di non risarcire le famiglie delle vittime.
Ma molto piu importante per queste compagnie, il risarcire sarebbe una ammissione di colpa con gravi conseguenze legali.


Ma ti pare possibile che i 15 anni di intossicazioni, se il vero motivo della sindrome aerotossica sarebbe questione di guarnizioni e filtri, non siano riusciti a sistemare il problema.?

Ma è ovvio che il problema della tossicità è un altro e che non si puo risolvere cessando di infestare chimicamente l'aria, perchè pecunia non olet e perderebbero una fonte di introiti extra.

Faccio solo 3 considerazioni al riguardo:

1) Gli aerei si rinnovano e questi problemi delle sindromi aerotossiche riguardano casi abbastanza circoscritti e legati all'utilizzo di vecchi aeromobili con antiquati sistemi di pressurizzazione e ventilazione di bordo. Oltretutto se questo fosse un problema di una certa gravità come vittime intendo non si potrebbe più volare perché inciderebbe enormemente sulle spese sanitarie e processuali.

2) E' certamente più inquinata l'aria all'esterno degli aeromobili che al loro interno!!

3) Non vedo la relazione con le scie chimiche...oops, volevo dire geoingegneria!

Oh ecco l'ingegnere dalle tre considerazioni che in 15 anni non riesce a trovare una soluzione al problema e preferisce lasciar che chi vola rischia la vita.

Ma che ci vuole, se il problema è dovuto ad infinitesimali perdite ai motori o sistema di aerazione, che ci vuole ad aggiornare un vecchio aereo?
Non lo si è fatto perchè il problema è un altro.

Non hai capito che su aerei molto piu vecchi, prima dell'anno 2000 la parola sindrome aerotossica non esisteva?
Che coincidenza con la bufala delle scie chimiche vero?

Quindi cosa vorresti sottintendere?

Che sei un Bufalo sottovè....