robs79 ha scritto:

Finche non ho una prova scientifica e certa che quello sia plasma o altro io posso credere di tutto.Poi se volete per forza fare gli scienziati da 4 soldi andate avanti.

Seth ha scritto:
La prova scientifica c'è. E meglio fare lo scienziato da 4 soldi che il credulone d.o.c. [}:)]

Ufologo 555 ha scritto:

Concordo con robs79; diciamo che non sappiamo cosa sono e non se neparla più ... Altrimenti siamo alle solite: chi crede in tutto e chi non crede in niente Metà e metà, poi faremo una ...parita!):
guardiamo, analizzimao, facciamo delle ipotesi; tutto qui.
Se pure fosse, mancherebbe la Tecnologia a chi potrebbe essere avanti a noi migliaia di anni? (Lo "shuttle" e l'aborigeno ...)

2di7 ha scritto:

Io intanto ho fatto richiesta di tutto il pacchetto delle immagine raw originali con tutti i dati delle sonde stereo (è fornito anche un software di elaborazione). Bisognerà attendere qualche giorno ma manderanno tutto via email... aspettiamo, verifico, elaboro, studio e vi tengo aggiornati! ... così, speriamo di toglierci qualche dubbio!

Solotecnico ha scritto:

E' borg è efficiente

Dear Mr. Andrews -

(Sorry not to make this more original, but we've had a number of questions
about these features since the Deep Space Network Central Data Recorder
(CDR) failure last week, and this is a cut-and-paste that I've been using to reply to
a lot of them. No disrespect intended, but very busy currently with writing
proposals for a Senior Review that decides whether to continue funding our
missions. Please let me know if this isn't comprehensible.)

What you're seeing are compression artifacts, highly magnified. We have to
compress the images digitally in order to keep a good rate of taking them and still
be able to telemeter them back (across an increasing distance, which weakens the
signal and limits how much data we can send per unit time) to earth. The images
you are looking at in the video are "space weather beacon mode" images that are
telemetered down nearly continuously:

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beaco ... rage.shtml

in near-realtime, and are both binned (undersampled spatially, down to 512 x 512
pixels) and heavily, lossily compressed digitally onboard (analogous to the various
JPEG compression settings on a digital camera, but much more severe). Then
they're made available on the Website in a variety of magnifications or "upresings"
which only magnify the artifacts. Usually, by now (that is, three days or more after
the data were obtained), we'd have the full-resolution (2048 x 2048 pixel) images,
which are much less heavily, but still lossily, compressed, and are played back to
a Deep Space Network (DSN) ground station via the high-gain antenna on one of
the STEREO spacecraft. Unfortunately, a piece of ground hardware at DSN failed,
and we're only now catching up on the full-resolution data from January 18 onward
--- except the lower-resolution (512 x 512) beacon mode data. People first started
seeing the odd images around that date, when there was a moderate solar
energetic particle event, but those up-resed images have now been replaced on
the SSC Website with the full resolution ones. DSN has caught us up to January
20, the last time I checked.

The compression artifacts are particularly obvious when a particle (cosmic ray or
solar energetic, charged particle) hits the CCD detector on the spacecraft
head-on. (Grazing hits show up as bright streaks.) The compression scheme has
a hard time mathematically representing sharp, single- or few-pixel features, and
you get a characteristic pattern of a bright dot in the middle of a compression
block (a subsection of the image) surrounded by a pattern of dark dots.

Best,

Joe Gurman

(Dr.) Joseph B. Gurman
STEREO Project Scientist

Halosoldier ha scritto:

eieie stavo seguendo la discussione di robs e seth.... ma non litighiamo, perche la edo male questa conversazione..... nessuno sa cose, e vero pero che è improbabile che degli ufo stiano vicino al sle...... xD e un po calduccio...... elaboriamo teorie.... non tiriamo certezze..... l importante e creare delle teorie... se poi colalboriamo con le teorie di ognuno, possiamo aiutarci a vicenda, senza litigare.... perche poi si trova la risposta collaborando.....