01/10/2018, 10:53
Wolframio ha scritto:Sottovento ha scritto:Sono d'accordo, ma un soggetto simile una volta scoperto bastava far scattare un blitz dei federali, sequestrare le prove di reato raccolte e arrestarlo, ergo non capisco a che scopo chiudere per tanti giorni un osservatorio di tale importanza.
Tutta la facenda ha inizio il mese di luglio/agosto.
Sulla possibilità che il pedofilo non è stato arrestato subito senza chiudere l'osservatorio, ne avevo già accennato leggendo un tuo link viewtopic.php?p=485587#p485587Il 6 settembre, l'Osservatorio di Sunspot è stato chiuso dopo "minacce velate" contro la struttura. Il Journal di Albuquerque dice che le minacce arrivarono dal custode dopo che il laptop fu sequestrato, ma non nominò il custode nella storia. Il custode ha detto che le telecamere del decoy erano uno "scherzo" ed era solo una questione di tempo prima che la struttura venisse colpita.
Quando il bidello disse che c'era un serial killer nella zona ed era preoccupato che l'assassino potesse "entrare nella struttura ed uccidere qualcuno", l'FBI decise di chiudere temporaneamente la struttura.
Potete leggere qui come è andata nel dettaglio e documentata la storia:
https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/joshua-c ... bservatory
01/10/2018, 12:03
01/10/2018, 12:19
mik.300 ha scritto:scusate ma faccio fatica a prendere sulo serio questa roba..
01/10/2018, 14:34
Wolframio ha scritto:ma poi il bidello segaiolo lo hanno arrestato?
perchè se è ancora a piede libero
non si capisce erchè dopo una settimana
la minaccia dovrebbe essere scomparsa..
Il bidello che tra l'altro non lavora per il Sunspot ma per l'impresa di pulizia di suo padre incaricata appunto per le pulizie.
Non è mai stato una minaccia.
Il serial killer è una sua invenzione per estranearsi dalla presenza di quel laptop.
Lo spiego con parole mie.... dopo che il suo laptop è stato scoperto e sequestrato ha detto: "guardate che l'accesso allo stabile è un gioco da ragazzi dove possono entraci cani e porci e c'è in giro un serial killer"
Che ora sia stato arrestato non lo sò, comunque era un sospettato e all'epoca dell'articolo è stato messo solo sotto interrogatorio, perquisito il suo domicilio ed il camper dove alloggiava.
L'inchiesta era iniziata mesi prima quando l'FBI aveva intercettato e monitorato a lungo il traffico di materiale pedofilo transitare da e per l'IP dell'osservatorio.
L'intento era di avere piu elementi per scoprire la rete di pedofili.
Il casino della sicurezza e l'evacuazione della collina è saltato fuori quando questo personaggio ha dichiarato quello che ha dichiarato.
01/10/2018, 15:10
Angel_ ha scritto:There seems to be more to come from this story, such as, “How would a janitor manage to infiltrate the observatory’s computer hardware and make use of its databases, that is of course, assuming that it was the janitor?”
Is this another example of the real truth behind the curtain..or not?. Unfortunately we seem to have a world full of these curtains with some ugly truths behind them!
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01/10/2018, 17:43
01/10/2018, 18:44
Problem with Child Pornography Search & Seizure
I called the Sheriff again and he said the FBI still had not told him anything about even the child pornography threat.
I asked historian and author Peter Levenda — renowned for his books Sinister Forces and Unholy Alliance — what he thought of such a child pornography charge two weeks after the National Solar Observatory had been closed down by the FBI.
Peter emailed back: “Child pornography files can be hidden on any computer by an outside agency to discredit a target. It is the worst kind of evidence that can be planted, and the most difficult to refute.
This is the thing, though: You don’t evacuate a building due to child pornography. Child pornography does not explode. It doesn’t send out spores that attack the nervous system.
And since when do you remove possible suspects from a crime scene (such as the observatory staff) without having them sequestered so they cannot compare stories? We have to assume that, in a case of child porn, anyone who was at the observatory had to be a possible suspect as a co-conspirator.
And why would you not be forthcoming about a child porn case with the local authorities such as the Sheriff? If the janitor was disseminating child porn through the observatory’s internet system, then why close down the post office?
Why tape off the entire observatory site? According to the FBI, the janitor became alarmed when he couldn’t find his laptop (which evidently was taken by the FBI). Yet, the janitor has not been arrested. There have been no charges against him so far. There has to be more to the story … or a different story altogether!”
Now today on September 27th, the child pornography explanation has holes and contradictions. Recently I checked in with El Paso ABC affiliate WVIA-TV’s investigative reporter Christina Aguayo for her perspective on why the Sheriff would be kept in the dark by the FBI and her perspective now on the child pornography charge. Here from El Paso, Texas, is reporter Christina Aguayo.
Christina Aguayo, ABC-TV’s WVIA Channel 7 Investigative Reporter: “So, they’ve nailed down a laptop; they’ve nailed down the person that it allegedly belongs to. So, they have all of that information. If it’s child pornography, why would they have to evacuate an entire observatory, even the post office. Why the need to evacuate for 10 days?
When the investigation team went up there — Daniel Fuentes and myself — we were searching around and we found what we thought was a back entrance to Sunspot. Well, actually it was the entrance to Apache Observatory, which sits directly next to Sunspot. And when we went up there, we found three or four people, who were working there. They were not evacuated. So, if this suspect posed such a threat, why weren’t they evacuated as well?
But they (AURA and FBI) say there is no longer a threat, right? And in their statement (Sept. 17, 2018 Press Release), they said there is “no further risk to staff and residences.” Does that mean he (suspect) has been caught? And if he’s caught, where is the arrest record? Where are they holding him?
If he hasn’t been caught, then why didn’t they arrest him? Does that mean he’s on the loose? Are they looking for him?
And if the crime is allegedly child pornography, how much of a threat does he pose to grown adults. Because the last time I checked, they don’t have children working at the Sunspot Observatory.
RIGHT.
You know, but they (AURA) say there is no longer a threat, right? In this statement (press release) they say there is no further risk to staff and residents. Does this mean he has been caught? And if he’s been caught, where is the arrest record? Where are they holding him? Is that why there was a helicopter there on the first day of the closure?
IT’S REALLY WEIRD, CHRISTINA.
Extremely weird! And when I went up there, what’s also weird is when I spoke with the security people they hired to watch over (site), even they had questions of, ‘Why were we hired only three days before opening (September 17, 2018)? And if we were only here to take care of possible looting? …
Well, when we were up there the first and second time, there wasn’t a soul up there. And if the security team was hired to prevent people from looting the empty residences that were up there, why did they wait until three days before they opened and why are they contracted out another two weeks after that?
And even speaking with some employees in the area, they were saying, ‘We were told to say we’re happy to be back.’ And that struck me as weird.
Instead of ‘We were told we can’t comment’ or something to that effect — we were told to say we’re happy to be back. And I thought, ‘Wow, I can’t believe you are actually saying that to me!’
THERE WERE BOARDS ON WINDOWS OF HOUSES AND DORMITORIES.
Well, what happened to the threat? What happened to it — because I don’t see an arrest record. I don’t see a name in the paper. I don’t see anything.
There are too many questions that still need to be answered for this to just go away quietly.
DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT OTHER STATION IN EL PASO GOT THESE UNITED STATES SEARCH AND SEIZURE WARRANTS? (KTSM-TV Channel 9 El Paso)
You know, I’m not exactly sure.
IT’S ALMOST AS IF THERE WAS A PLANT.
To provide them with the documents rather than us?
YEAH, LIKE THERE’S GOT TO BE A REASON WHY THAT STATION GOT THESE WARRANTS.
Another question!
IT IS SUCH A STRANGE STORY AND IT HAS COME DOWN TO WHERE REPORTERS ARE HAVING TO TALK WITH REPORTERS BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY IN AUTHORITY WHO HAS EITHER INFORMATION OR IS GOING ON THE RECORD.
Or even returning any phone calls, emails. And the only reason that Frank Fisher responded to me from the FBI ( Public Information Officer in New Mexico) is because I told him what Sheriff Benny House told me after I presented Sheriff House with the statement from AURA.
And I asked him — I said, ‘Well, do you want to respond to what Sheriff House is saying?’
And that’s when I finally received that call back and he (FBI) said, “Refer to that statement.” (AURA Press Release of Sept. 17, 2018) And then hung up the phone on me.
CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT IT WAS THAT OTERO COUNTY SHERIFF BENNY HOUSE SAID TO YOU?
He said he thought the FBI was chicken bleep and they mis-handled the entire investigation. That they put him in a bad way because they didn’t inform him of any potentially dangerous suspect that was either on the loose, or was up on the Sacramento Peak. That they (FBI) were impeding on his ability to protect his citizens and also protect the lives of his officers since they are the ones that have to investigate. Say they go up to Sunspot themselves and they encounter something that they are not ready for or not expecting. He was not informed of any type of potentially dangerous threat.
I TALKED WITH SHERIFF HOUSE ON FRIDAY, THE 21ST, AND HE STILL HAD NEVER HAD ANY CONTENT NOTIFICATION FROM THE FBI ABOUT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, NOT STOLEN COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, NOT THE POSSIBILITY OF A SPY — HE HAD BEEN TOLD NOTHING.
WHY DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE THAT KIND OF DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION CLOSING DOWN THE NATIONAL SOLAR OBSERVATORY AND THE SHERIFF OF THAT COUNTY?
You know, my first thought is that it is something greater going on; it’s something of a higher magnitude that maybe has to have higher security clearances.
And I don’t believe that the FBI would knowingly have a potentially dangerous suspect on the loose that could harm people and not inform local law enforcement. So I just feel that it might be a bigger issue than this potentially dangerous suspect and it might be something that they do want to keep secret, that they do want to keep under wraps — something that none of us know is going on and that they feel for security reasons, they need to keep in house.
AND CHRISTINA, WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING IS THAT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY WOULD BE USED AS A COVER FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE STILL DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
Well, it is a question, that is a question.”
Update On Sunspot Solar Observatory — Silent FBI, Odd Child Porn Charges and Angry Sheriff.
01/10/2018, 20:02
Angel_ ha scritto:Questo per chi non lo sapesse é il sito di Linda Moulton Howe...Problem with Child Pornography Search & Seizure
I called the Sheriff again and he said the FBI still had not told him anything about even the child pornography threat.
I asked historian and author Peter Levenda — renowned for his books Sinister Forces and Unholy Alliance — what he thought of such a child pornography charge two weeks after the National Solar Observatory had been closed down by the FBI.
Peter emailed back: “Child pornography files can be hidden on any computer by an outside agency to discredit a target. It is the worst kind of evidence that can be planted, and the most difficult to refute.
This is the thing, though: You don’t evacuate a building due to child pornography. Child pornography does not explode. It doesn’t send out spores that attack the nervous system.
And since when do you remove possible suspects from a crime scene (such as the observatory staff) without having them sequestered so they cannot compare stories? We have to assume that, in a case of child porn, anyone who was at the observatory had to be a possible suspect as a co-conspirator.
And why would you not be forthcoming about a child porn case with the local authorities such as the Sheriff? If the janitor was disseminating child porn through the observatory’s internet system, then why close down the post office?
Why tape off the entire observatory site? According to the FBI, the janitor became alarmed when he couldn’t find his laptop (which evidently was taken by the FBI). Yet, the janitor has not been arrested. There have been no charges against him so far. There has to be more to the story … or a different story altogether!”
Now today on September 27th, the child pornography explanation has holes and contradictions. Recently I checked in with El Paso ABC affiliate WVIA-TV’s investigative reporter Christina Aguayo for her perspective on why the Sheriff would be kept in the dark by the FBI and her perspective now on the child pornography charge. Here from El Paso, Texas, is reporter Christina Aguayo.
Christina Aguayo, ABC-TV’s WVIA Channel 7 Investigative Reporter: “So, they’ve nailed down a laptop; they’ve nailed down the person that it allegedly belongs to. So, they have all of that information. If it’s child pornography, why would they have to evacuate an entire observatory, even the post office. Why the need to evacuate for 10 days?
When the investigation team went up there — Daniel Fuentes and myself — we were searching around and we found what we thought was a back entrance to Sunspot. Well, actually it was the entrance to Apache Observatory, which sits directly next to Sunspot. And when we went up there, we found three or four people, who were working there. They were not evacuated. So, if this suspect posed such a threat, why weren’t they evacuated as well?
But they (AURA and FBI) say there is no longer a threat, right? And in their statement (Sept. 17, 2018 Press Release), they said there is “no further risk to staff and residences.” Does that mean he (suspect) has been caught? And if he’s caught, where is the arrest record? Where are they holding him?
If he hasn’t been caught, then why didn’t they arrest him? Does that mean he’s on the loose? Are they looking for him?
And if the crime is allegedly child pornography, how much of a threat does he pose to grown adults. Because the last time I checked, they don’t have children working at the Sunspot Observatory.
RIGHT.
You know, but they (AURA) say there is no longer a threat, right? In this statement (press release) they say there is no further risk to staff and residents. Does this mean he has been caught? And if he’s been caught, where is the arrest record? Where are they holding him? Is that why there was a helicopter there on the first day of the closure?
IT’S REALLY WEIRD, CHRISTINA.
Extremely weird! And when I went up there, what’s also weird is when I spoke with the security people they hired to watch over (site), even they had questions of, ‘Why were we hired only three days before opening (September 17, 2018)? And if we were only here to take care of possible looting? …
Well, when we were up there the first and second time, there wasn’t a soul up there. And if the security team was hired to prevent people from looting the empty residences that were up there, why did they wait until three days before they opened and why are they contracted out another two weeks after that?
And even speaking with some employees in the area, they were saying, ‘We were told to say we’re happy to be back.’ And that struck me as weird.
Instead of ‘We were told we can’t comment’ or something to that effect — we were told to say we’re happy to be back. And I thought, ‘Wow, I can’t believe you are actually saying that to me!’
THERE WERE BOARDS ON WINDOWS OF HOUSES AND DORMITORIES.
Well, what happened to the threat? What happened to it — because I don’t see an arrest record. I don’t see a name in the paper. I don’t see anything.
There are too many questions that still need to be answered for this to just go away quietly.
DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT OTHER STATION IN EL PASO GOT THESE UNITED STATES SEARCH AND SEIZURE WARRANTS? (KTSM-TV Channel 9 El Paso)
You know, I’m not exactly sure.
IT’S ALMOST AS IF THERE WAS A PLANT.
To provide them with the documents rather than us?
YEAH, LIKE THERE’S GOT TO BE A REASON WHY THAT STATION GOT THESE WARRANTS.
Another question!
IT IS SUCH A STRANGE STORY AND IT HAS COME DOWN TO WHERE REPORTERS ARE HAVING TO TALK WITH REPORTERS BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY IN AUTHORITY WHO HAS EITHER INFORMATION OR IS GOING ON THE RECORD.
Or even returning any phone calls, emails. And the only reason that Frank Fisher responded to me from the FBI ( Public Information Officer in New Mexico) is because I told him what Sheriff Benny House told me after I presented Sheriff House with the statement from AURA.
And I asked him — I said, ‘Well, do you want to respond to what Sheriff House is saying?’
And that’s when I finally received that call back and he (FBI) said, “Refer to that statement.” (AURA Press Release of Sept. 17, 2018) And then hung up the phone on me.
CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT IT WAS THAT OTERO COUNTY SHERIFF BENNY HOUSE SAID TO YOU?
He said he thought the FBI was chicken bleep and they mis-handled the entire investigation. That they put him in a bad way because they didn’t inform him of any potentially dangerous suspect that was either on the loose, or was up on the Sacramento Peak. That they (FBI) were impeding on his ability to protect his citizens and also protect the lives of his officers since they are the ones that have to investigate. Say they go up to Sunspot themselves and they encounter something that they are not ready for or not expecting. He was not informed of any type of potentially dangerous threat.
I TALKED WITH SHERIFF HOUSE ON FRIDAY, THE 21ST, AND HE STILL HAD NEVER HAD ANY CONTENT NOTIFICATION FROM THE FBI ABOUT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, NOT STOLEN COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, NOT THE POSSIBILITY OF A SPY — HE HAD BEEN TOLD NOTHING.
WHY DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE THAT KIND OF DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION CLOSING DOWN THE NATIONAL SOLAR OBSERVATORY AND THE SHERIFF OF THAT COUNTY?
You know, my first thought is that it is something greater going on; it’s something of a higher magnitude that maybe has to have higher security clearances.
And I don’t believe that the FBI would knowingly have a potentially dangerous suspect on the loose that could harm people and not inform local law enforcement. So I just feel that it might be a bigger issue than this potentially dangerous suspect and it might be something that they do want to keep secret, that they do want to keep under wraps — something that none of us know is going on and that they feel for security reasons, they need to keep in house.
AND CHRISTINA, WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING IS THAT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY WOULD BE USED AS A COVER FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE STILL DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
Well, it is a question, that is a question.”
Update On Sunspot Solar Observatory — Silent FBI, Odd Child Porn Charges and Angry Sheriff.
02/10/2018, 20:00
02/10/2018, 21:13
Wolframio ha scritto:La mia conclusione è che il segaiolo ha messo nel sacco mezzo mondo e la chiusura dell'osservatorio era stata decisa dalla direzione, non dall'FBI.
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