05/06/2010, 08:09
Un bel mistero. Qualcuno ha la pazienza di recuperare i video di tutte le spirali e di confrontarne il senso di rotazione?
Sarò grato![[:I]](./images/smilies/UF/icon_smile_blush.gif "Imbarazzato")
Sarò grato
05/06/2010, 09:15
UFO spotted over eastern Australia
An astronomer says a bright spiralling light spotted in the sky by people across eastern Australia this morning was probably a satellite, space junk or a rocket.
The UFO was seen moving through the sky just before sunrise in New South Wales, Queensland and the ACT.
ABC News Online has received dozens of emails, pictures and videos from those who were awe-stricken by the huge white light.
Some described it as a "lollipop-type swirl". Others say it hovered for a while before gradually moving in an eastern direction until it was out of sight. Those who saw the object say photos do not reflect how large it actually was.
Geoffrey Whyatt from the Sydney Observatory says it was probably a satellite, space junk or a rocket.
"The fact that you've got the rotation, the spiral effect, is very reminiscent of the much widely reported sightings from Norway and Russia last year, which both turned out to be a Bulava missile which was being adjusted in its orbit," he said.
"So possibly a rocket, I would say, having some sort of gyroscopic stability rocket fired on its side."
Mr Whyatt says it is a rare phenomenon.
"The first I saw of the spirals was last year when they were reported in Norway and then a few days later in Russia," he said.
"The Norway one was very spectacular because of its symmetrical appearance.
"But the one this morning and the one in Russia bear a striking similarity of being the same effects from a rocket trying to be controlled or adjusted."
A privately-owned rocket launched from Cape Canaveral in Florida on its first test flight is believed to be responsible.
But Doug Moffett from UFO Research NSW says he has a few problems with this theory.
"Firstly, the time of the launch was 18.45 GMT, which translates to 4.45am EST, the duration of the flight was 9 minutes 38 seconds - this is a full hour before the reported sightings," he said.
"Secondly, where was the glow from the boosters or from the friction created by the craft moving through the atmosphere, where was the tail of the rocket?
"Thirdly, why would anyone launch a rocket on a maiden test flight with a trajectory that would take it over the most heavily populated parts of Australia?
"And how big must this rocket have been to be seen so clearly, at the same time, over such a vast distance?"
'Like a bright star'
Canberra resident James Butcher says he was driving home from a night out with his brother when they spotted the "strange spiral light in the sky".
"It had a distinct bright centre, much like a bright star, indicating an object shedding light trails, spiralling and fattening out from it," he said.
"The effect lasted only two or three minutes, moving and descending quickly out of view.
"The colour was yellowish but this may have been blurred and tinted by the morning fog."
Wollongong man Eddie Wise says he also saw the light during his morning walk just before 6:00am.
He says he has never seen anything like it.
"It was like a yellowish, greenish light with a light spiral around it," he said.
"It sort of moved around, bobbed up and down and then it went behind a cloud.
"I'm just amazed. I want to know what it was."
A caller to the ABC, Robyn, says she saw the phenomenon from her home on Sydney's north shore just before 6:00am.
She says it was over within two minutes.
"There was this white light up in the sky like a huge revolving moon," Robyn said.
"At first I thought it was the moon but it was travelling so fast, high up above the eastern horizon and twirling as it went.
"It was just amazing and to be quite frank, I was quite frightened and my heart's still pounding."
'Lollipop-type swirl'
A number of people from Morayfield and Caboolture in Queensland have reported that they too saw a white light in the sky about 5:50am.
"It was just the one light. I just came home from my walk and I happened to look up in the sky, and here it was racing across the sky," Linda told 612 ABC Brisbane.
"I bashed on the window for my husband to have a look and he flew out.
"It was spectacular."
Linda described the light as like a lollipop swirl.
She says the light came from the west and was headed east, out to sea.
"It was just unreal. There was a cloud in the sky - just this light with a swirl in the middle," she said.
Peter, from Balmoral, says he saw the light while he was on a ferry terminal on the Brisbane River.
"It certainly had that lollipop-type swirl ... but it was travelling low and fairly fast, and as it went past me and I looked up, it looked like a row of lights, maybe four lights," he said.
Denise, at Pine Mountain, told ABC radio in Brisbane that she saw the lights shortly before 6:00am.
"I got up at about 5:45 to let my horse out of his stable ... and I saw this coming from a north-west direction towards the south-east," she said.
"There was no noise. It was like bands of ribbon coming out of it and it looked like it was coming through a cloud, yet there were no clouds."
Fonte: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ite=sydney
An astronomer says a bright spiralling light spotted in the sky by people across eastern Australia this morning was probably a satellite, space junk or a rocket.
The UFO was seen moving through the sky just before sunrise in New South Wales, Queensland and the ACT.
ABC News Online has received dozens of emails, pictures and videos from those who were awe-stricken by the huge white light.
Some described it as a "lollipop-type swirl". Others say it hovered for a while before gradually moving in an eastern direction until it was out of sight. Those who saw the object say photos do not reflect how large it actually was.
Geoffrey Whyatt from the Sydney Observatory says it was probably a satellite, space junk or a rocket.
"The fact that you've got the rotation, the spiral effect, is very reminiscent of the much widely reported sightings from Norway and Russia last year, which both turned out to be a Bulava missile which was being adjusted in its orbit," he said.
"So possibly a rocket, I would say, having some sort of gyroscopic stability rocket fired on its side."
Mr Whyatt says it is a rare phenomenon.
"The first I saw of the spirals was last year when they were reported in Norway and then a few days later in Russia," he said.
"The Norway one was very spectacular because of its symmetrical appearance.
"But the one this morning and the one in Russia bear a striking similarity of being the same effects from a rocket trying to be controlled or adjusted."
A privately-owned rocket launched from Cape Canaveral in Florida on its first test flight is believed to be responsible.
But Doug Moffett from UFO Research NSW says he has a few problems with this theory.
"Firstly, the time of the launch was 18.45 GMT, which translates to 4.45am EST, the duration of the flight was 9 minutes 38 seconds - this is a full hour before the reported sightings," he said.
"Secondly, where was the glow from the boosters or from the friction created by the craft moving through the atmosphere, where was the tail of the rocket?
"Thirdly, why would anyone launch a rocket on a maiden test flight with a trajectory that would take it over the most heavily populated parts of Australia?
"And how big must this rocket have been to be seen so clearly, at the same time, over such a vast distance?"
'Like a bright star'
Canberra resident James Butcher says he was driving home from a night out with his brother when they spotted the "strange spiral light in the sky".
"It had a distinct bright centre, much like a bright star, indicating an object shedding light trails, spiralling and fattening out from it," he said.
"The effect lasted only two or three minutes, moving and descending quickly out of view.
"The colour was yellowish but this may have been blurred and tinted by the morning fog."
Wollongong man Eddie Wise says he also saw the light during his morning walk just before 6:00am.
He says he has never seen anything like it.
"It was like a yellowish, greenish light with a light spiral around it," he said.
"It sort of moved around, bobbed up and down and then it went behind a cloud.
"I'm just amazed. I want to know what it was."
A caller to the ABC, Robyn, says she saw the phenomenon from her home on Sydney's north shore just before 6:00am.
She says it was over within two minutes.
"There was this white light up in the sky like a huge revolving moon," Robyn said.
"At first I thought it was the moon but it was travelling so fast, high up above the eastern horizon and twirling as it went.
"It was just amazing and to be quite frank, I was quite frightened and my heart's still pounding."
'Lollipop-type swirl'
A number of people from Morayfield and Caboolture in Queensland have reported that they too saw a white light in the sky about 5:50am.
"It was just the one light. I just came home from my walk and I happened to look up in the sky, and here it was racing across the sky," Linda told 612 ABC Brisbane.
"I bashed on the window for my husband to have a look and he flew out.
"It was spectacular."
Linda described the light as like a lollipop swirl.
She says the light came from the west and was headed east, out to sea.
"It was just unreal. There was a cloud in the sky - just this light with a swirl in the middle," she said.
Peter, from Balmoral, says he saw the light while he was on a ferry terminal on the Brisbane River.
"It certainly had that lollipop-type swirl ... but it was travelling low and fairly fast, and as it went past me and I looked up, it looked like a row of lights, maybe four lights," he said.
Denise, at Pine Mountain, told ABC radio in Brisbane that she saw the lights shortly before 6:00am.
"I got up at about 5:45 to let my horse out of his stable ... and I saw this coming from a north-west direction towards the south-east," she said.
"There was no noise. It was like bands of ribbon coming out of it and it looked like it was coming through a cloud, yet there were no clouds."
Fonte: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... ite=sydney
05/06/2010, 09:32
Ok, "fenomeno raro" che si verifica tre volte nel giro di pochi mesi.
Per come la vedo io, l'ipotesi del razzo non sta in piedi.
Se le foto che hai postato si riferiscono agli altri casi, allora abbiamo tre fenomeni destrogiri ed uno sinistrogiro. Non è un elemento utile alla comprensione.
Tnx![[:)]](./images/smilies/UF/icon_smile.gif "Felice")
Per come la vedo io, l'ipotesi del razzo non sta in piedi.
Se le foto che hai postato si riferiscono agli altri casi, allora abbiamo tre fenomeni destrogiri ed uno sinistrogiro. Non è un elemento utile alla comprensione.
Tnx
Ultima modifica di eSQueL il 05/06/2010, 09:33, modificato 1 volta in totale.
05/06/2010, 10:20
Non potrebbe essere un bolide, la cui composizione a contatto con i gas atmosferici crea l' andatura a spirale?
05/06/2010, 10:30
Potrebbe. Ma come può verosimilmente, un fenomeno che non si è mai visto, ripetersi per quattro volte nel giro di pochi mesi?
Insomma, se il fenomeno è raro allora si verifica una volta. Dopodiché, per rivederlo dovresti attendere un lungo periodo di tempo. Ecco, se il supposto raro fenomeno si ripresenta subito, allora possiamo escludere che si tratti di un fatto naturale. Ossia, dobbiamo pensare che sia stato provocato intenzionalmente.
Insomma, se il fenomeno è raro allora si verifica una volta. Dopodiché, per rivederlo dovresti attendere un lungo periodo di tempo. Ecco, se il supposto raro fenomeno si ripresenta subito, allora possiamo escludere che si tratti di un fatto naturale. Ossia, dobbiamo pensare che sia stato provocato intenzionalmente.
05/06/2010, 10:32
eSQueL ha scritto:
Potrebbe. Ma come può verosimilmente, un fenomeno che non si è mai visto, ripetersi per quattro volte nel giro di pochi mesi?
Insomma, se il fenomeno è raro allora si verifica una volta. Dopodiché, per rivederlo dovresti attendere un lungo periodo di tempo. Ecco, se il supposto raro fenomeno si ripresenta subito, allora possiamo escludere che si tratti di un fatto naturale. Ossia, dobbiamo pensare che sia stato provocato intenzionalmente.
Da chi secondo te?
05/06/2010, 10:38
Non ne ho la più pallida idea ![[:D]](./images/smilies/UF/icon_smile_big.gif "Davvero Felice")
Ma troppe cose strane stanno accadendo nel mondo. Diciamo che cerco di stare in campana
Ma troppe cose strane stanno accadendo nel mondo. Diciamo che cerco di stare in campana
05/06/2010, 10:43
Adesso la sparo grossa. Non potrebbe essere uno stargate.
05/06/2010, 10:47
Anzitutto bisognerebbe definire la natura del fenomeno. Se fosse fisico, non credo che potrebbe trattarsi di uno stargate.
Se, viceversa, fosse psichico ... beh, allora le cose potrebbero essere molto diverse.
Se, viceversa, fosse psichico ... beh, allora le cose potrebbero essere molto diverse.
05/06/2010, 11:03
Nel 2008 sognavo spirali nel cielo...
17/06/2008
Stanotte ho sognato che il cielo si riempiva di spirali logaritmiche. Pensavo: "c'è qualcosa che cresce e resta sempre uguale a se stesso...è come aumentano le cose se sono al di fuori del tempo."
Bisognerebbe capire innanzi tutto se ci troviamo difronte ad un fenomeno spontaneo o generato da qualcosa...
17/06/2008
Stanotte ho sognato che il cielo si riempiva di spirali logaritmiche. Pensavo: "c'è qualcosa che cresce e resta sempre uguale a se stesso...è come aumentano le cose se sono al di fuori del tempo."
Bisognerebbe capire innanzi tutto se ci troviamo difronte ad un fenomeno spontaneo o generato da qualcosa...
05/06/2010, 11:38
Comunque niente visto prima; perciç, comete, bolidi e frescacce del genere zero! Tanto meno missili; allora o siamo con gli esperimenti "HAARP" ma sono un po scettico (perché farne in giro per il mondo invece che in un'area ben ptrotetta?), o "Crops" .... astrali! Staremo a ved ![[8D]](./images/smilies/UF/icon_smile_cool.gif "Caldo")
ere ...
ere ...
05/06/2010, 12:06
spiral light Ufo over Australia - new reports - US SpaceX rocket or not ?
UFO Spiral Sighting In Australia - 7 News (5th June 2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgaw6qF ... r_embedded
UFO Sighting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cx22kJz ... r_embedded
UFO over Gold Coast, Australia. June 5,2010.MP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xdbkpqt ... _embedded#!
UFO Spiral Sighting In Australia - 7 News (5th June 2010)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgaw6qF ... r_embedded
UFO Sighting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cx22kJz ... r_embedded
UFO over Gold Coast, Australia. June 5,2010.MP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xdbkpqt ... _embedded#!
05/06/2010, 12:25
SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket enjoys successful maiden flight
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10209704.stm
In quanto alla differenza di un'ora tra lancio e fenomeno osservato è tutto da dimostrare.
Questo articolo indica le 5 del mattino e non le 5.50 sempre relativo al fuso australiano della zona est (gmt+10). In questo periodo dell'anno non vige l'ora legale.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/early-morning-ufo-mystery/story-e6frf7jo-1225875811660
Quindi perfettamente coerente con l'ora del lancio.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz020.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10209704.stm
In quanto alla differenza di un'ora tra lancio e fenomeno osservato è tutto da dimostrare.
Questo articolo indica le 5 del mattino e non le 5.50 sempre relativo al fuso australiano della zona est (gmt+10). In questo periodo dell'anno non vige l'ora legale.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/early-morning-ufo-mystery/story-e6frf7jo-1225875811660
Quindi perfettamente coerente con l'ora del lancio.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz020.php
Ultima modifica di rmnd il 05/06/2010, 12:28, modificato 1 volta in totale.
05/06/2010, 14:03
eSQueL ha scritto:
abbiamo tre fenomeni destrogiri ed uno sinistrogiro. Non è un elemento utile alla comprensione.
Tnx
Direi invece....che forse un senso ci sia.
Se è un corpo che precipita,avrà una rotazione Dx o Sx a seconda che il fenomeno compaia nell'emisfero Nord,o nell'emisfero Sud del pianeta,a seguito della forza di Coriolis e della rotazione terrestre.
In Australia,la spirale dovrebbe essere pertanto invertita rispetto alla Norvegia!
(semprechè sia un oggetto che precipita,o che sale,e vincolato alla forza di gravità terrestre).